Dec 2, 2011

More on Healing Timer Gradients and Scripts

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A few days ago, I posted what turned out to be a private message between a third  party script writer and a developer (1). People forget that nothing said on Skype stays private for very long. Today there was another leak posted on the forums in this thread. I don't know the source as none was sited.

UPDATE: We had a very constructive conversation with the Mafia Wars team. They explained that the problem with excess health has created a scenario where a significantly large population (thousands of users) was simply no longer able to be iced (using autohelaers or manually, it didn't matter). The change to the heal timer was made to make it possible (but still difficult) to ice such high health players. The game quickly becomes no fun if all anyone can do is dump their stamina on a target and never get any sort of progress toward defeating it, esentailly shooting tons of bullets into invincible gods. Clan play really depends on each side being able to claim ices on the other side, so this change was necessary to restore the balance.

We also discussed the use of 3rd party scripts. Officially 3rd party scripts are against the Terms of Service, however Zynga knows that they are widely used. What is imporant to Zynga is that 3rd Party scripts do not give users an unfair advantage over users that choose to play manually. Zynga is currently experiencing issues with very high server loads, which is potentially related to some 3rd Party script. If Zynga determines that UnlockedMW is causing this, we will modify UnlockedMW to help alleivate the issue. We would expect that the other big name script providers such as Spockholms or Playerscipts would be willing to make any modifications required as well. Perhaps someday will come when the script authors and Zynga can come to a formal agreement, until then we will have to continue working informally.


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12 comments:

  1. Thank you for been so informative and fair to all. Thanks for doing all you can to help players and improve the game play :)

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  2. maybe you should have private convo's in IRC using ssl and blowfish encryption. skype really is for people to lazy to type.

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  3. "I don't know the source as none was sited."

    http://unlockedmw.com/2011/12/save-mafia-wars-update/

    Hope it helps.

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  4. I find it interesting, almost funny, that they bring up the use of scripts, icing 150 people a day manually is near impossible, maybe that's because scripts are so commonly used, but if they were to start blocking script usage, they would kill the game or have to make some serious adjustments to keep the game playable.

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  5. Zynga appears to be on the horns of a dilemma. In all probability the vast majority of people spending any kind of real money on the game at this point ALL use scripts.

    Kill scripting off? And kill off what's left of the golden goose?

    I doubt it.

    Don't give up your day jobs.

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  6. 'What is imporant to Zynga is that 3rd Party scripts do not give users an unfair advantage over users that choose to play manually.' - there is no question that using scripts gives a helluva advantage- not directly in fighting maybe, although this is questionable when, for example, ice mission calls for numbers of ices almost impossible to get manually, but in collecting from feed for sure- try getting into wars manually if you disagree. Why the hell would anyone use them if they DIDNT give an advantage. The game is full of script users and that aint gonna change, end of story.

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  7. I like all the improvement Zynga is adding to the game.. New players can join the games Now.. Since there is a red tag family.. A lot of people abandon their friends and their mafia.. this is the main reasons cause the lost players.. It is because of us.. We don't take care of our smaller players. we are too greedy. Only adding big and strong Mafia.. those are weak and don't know how to feel abandon.. the only they do just quit.. Remember we need both weak and Strong player. Stop blaming Zynga for every lost.. because when someone has glitch or Exploit then the said Zynga is nice and good.

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  8. I say speed up the game so when you attack you can ice in 30 seconds. Slowing down the heal timers to match a slow game is stupid. Zynga SUX!

    @ "Zynga is currently experiencing issues with very high server loads,"
    See they are way behind on servers even with all the players that have left the game. Overloaded servers=Slow play and no ice!

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  9. Zynga is to blame here...if high health is a problem, just come up with a calculation, if defense is weaker than your attack and health is high do more damage each attack. People stop putting into defense and more into health because it's their defense now. Also Zynga has been closing servers and moved them to other games, closed cities to save server space...they are loosing people? Off course they are for years since they started limiting everything and making loot not giftable...now they ended with the gift links and fustrated more people...and they wonder why people leave Mafia Wars?!? LMAO!

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  10. actually, other so called PURE players do cheat to get high ice counts.... just because you don't use a script doesn't mean you can't "cheat". Case in point, multiple accounts. Certain families have done this in the past, where they create new accounts and continually heal then ice these super weak accounts, solely to add up Ices while only spending 1 stamina per ice!!

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  11. True, zynga made a big mistake with the chicago health boost, but we all make mistakes. and if mistakes can be rectified, then it should.
    My solution will be for Zynga to change collection time of chicago health boost.. Change it from every 8 hours to every 24 hrs or 48 hrs. Many now have high health, and with the health boost, it is almost impossible to ice them.
    Scripts are written to help gamers, and I do believe the main script leaders ( spocks < number 1 in my book> ) write the scripts with all good intentions, but some of us use these scripts negatively ( to bully weaker opponents), which in turn frustrates and eventually make some people abandon the game.
    If we all use the scripts as advised by the writers, we will find the game more enjoyable.
    Using scripts negatively, will eventually screw us all, bcos the more players leave the game, the less the company (zynga) will be interested in it....meaning we all get f***ed at the end of the day.
    The lady made a blog about bulling, and how it is driving players away......Can we not see the sense in what she said??

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  12. Yes I like the idea of going back to the Moscow style of Beta fighting! Your damage to a target was based on how strong your attack was compared to their defense strength, and if you try to fight with a weak defense you take more damage than you give. There are many snipers out there that ice fast when they have no skill invested in defense if they have to fight a Moscow Beta fight. I miss fighting in Moscow with power attacks putting 300 to 400 damage on a weak target. Fast ice with many more kills.

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