Very sad but we are finally free from Zynga and this broken game that we have loved but also hated for so long. I don't think i will necessarily miss the game too much but more so the many great people I have met through the game... A big shout out also to you LL for all your efforts in keeping us informed over the years and to be fair also keeping us interested. Take care all, where ever you are in the world and whatever you do
Same here - been playing since early 2009, and it's a big reason I log into Facebook every day. The upside is that I'll have more time to do something useful now, but I'll still miss this game. Despite its many issues, it was still entertaining for all these years. I think I'm done with FB games after this.
Same here, since 2009. I personally didn't like MW very much since South Africa came up. The game became ever more greedy, absurd and time consuming since then. So I take it easy but I guess some people must be suicidal now ? ;-) The only Zynga game so far I'll continue playing ist their Poker.
If this is true then Zynga are truly fools - it was the only game worth playing and I also will miss my Mafia family madly - I think we should boycott all Zynga games!!!!
Considering MW opened early 2008 but Myspace opened a year before (April 2007 I believe) it literally had 12 months to go before seeing a decade through. Only it'd be a real anniversary not just a made up date so Zynga can get an event out of it. That's good for any online game not just a Zynga one. Shame they couldn't see it through a decade with 79K players they could have easily seen another year out just for the achievement.
Thank you so much for everything you have done Jen. I'd have been done with this game about 4 years ago if it wasn't for this blog.
I really feel sorry for the people that gave up there hard-earned 25 bucks a month just to play a game that ZYNGIMME$$$ just drops. SO every single F'N' Zyngimme$$$ GAME will be DROPPED from my life. CANCEL CANCEL CANCEL, etc... Sounds like WALL STREET rules them anyway :-(
Yes, we all could see the writing on the wall. I have so enjoyed not only this game but meeting the many people from all over the world! I will definitely miss the camaraderie. Tho I would love to find another game to play, I am not into "farming" or "poker". Thank you Jen and LL for everything you have done for us. I will miss checking this blog and the FB page.
Zynga has really screwed itself now. Loyal players for years been treated like this. Pathetic and no class just money hungry. And they are going to put their energy in some new game which no one is going to play anyways after this. Aunts is like the titanic now. I am going to miss the social interaction and daily routine. So much gratitude and thanks to you and your team. Hopefully someone can either but MW or we find some new cool game 😑
I havent really been playing the last year do to work, i have posted my links daily, but i couldnt really play any and i also kinda got abit tired of the game, barely had time to finish Mexico before LA came out and then booooom, Japan, so i could only get to district 3 in LA, wish they slowed that bit down and the game would live a tinybit longer, but thats how it is when you rush things.
Kinda sad to see it go, spent my last 5-6 years playing the game, thanks to my brother i started in 2009, but I guess now is a good time to spend my 7k rp points ive been saving up the last 5 years, I have spent some, but that was ONLY an accident, lol, I accidentally bought off one of the extreme missions many years ago due to a miss click and i hadnt activated that spockholm confirmation button, that got activated right away after that lol, was done a month early with the mission though, haha.
But again, its sad to see it go. :( This blog was good to have when it was active and there was things to do, but that also died quickly, so whats left now is just to play another 2 months, spend everything I have and move on I guess, but atleast i free up some space from my fb wall lol, but mw will still remain in my favorite games on fb, I wont delete it from that list and I can sit and look at it and sometimes click it on hope that some day it will pop up again. :D
So long mw, you will be missed not matter what, it was alot of fun no matter how you put it, goodbye MafiaWars, goodbye.
I doubt you'll remember me because I quit MW cold turkey about 4 years ago. I was the person who owned the Tankchair and was surprised to see MY offroad wheelchair drop in the game. It was obviously my chair as newer models were built differently and other copycat chairs had a much different chassis and tread. After much good natured correspondance between myself and Zynga asking them to give the fellow who invented my Tankchair credit, they agreed to change the name of the game loot. The inventor and myself signed permission forms for Zynga to use the image. Once that was done we heard nothing more about it and Zynga never answered any more emails regarding the matter. I haven't played a Zynga game since. They've been a dishonest company in my opinion.
Mob Wars has filed a lawsuit against Zynga for copyright infringement for stealing the basis of MW from Mob Wars. THAT is why Zynga is shutting Mafia Wars down.
I am very sad to see the game end. I will especially miss the many friends I have met all over the world from playing. It was a real time waster though. I do not think I will be transferring to another game. Zynga will be losing my business completely.
I was planning on finishing Japan and then quitting anyways, so this is great news as with the 10x mastery I no longer have to worry about building up consumables. I can used all of the reward points I saved up just to level so I can finish off Japan faster. I may even be able to do it today!
I wanted to quit playing about 2 years ago but since I started my family I felt I would be letting them down by doing so. So kept playing, and it's been a bad habit of mine for a long time. I'm a competitive person so just playing wasn't enough, I had to do well to derive enjoyment. I'll miss the people from the game, especially you Jen for providing a useful resource, but I certainly won't miss Zynga. I don't plan on ever playing another Zynga game again.
Deactivated all zynga games this morning including MW. Taking a short position on their shares too as I can see them heading south very quickly. Made a couple of percent just today but plenty more to come over the coming months. They're screwing themselves and i will take great pleasure in profiting from it. What they've taken away in MW I will take back in dollar bills lol.
Since they are closing and there are 10X mastery, I wish they would do so we didnt need any loot or money to do the jobs, I wish that so i could finish the jobs, havent even started on Japan, got only to district 3 in LA.
But MafiaWars, we are sad to see you go, its the game ive been playing longest I think and I play alot of multiplayer games on my PC, its either the longest or its tied with another game, hehe. MW was fun atleast with NY and Cuba and Moscow, I remember the last Moscow job being sooooo hard, needed 13k energy per click or was it 1300(?), now these days I could have done have the job in one energy pool or something or the whole thing. :P
A lot of people spent real money on this game. And yet this is the result. Lesson I've learned. Never spend real money on a virtual game because it isn't tangible and can be taken away from you in a second. I will also be boycotting Zynga. For now I am playing a game called "Island Experiment" You start out on an island that's pretty hostile and you have to fight carnivorous spiders and build up your island and then there's an entire archipelago of islands to set sail for all of which have interesting prospects. There are also strangers washing ashore, and some of the other islands are inhabited. You never know if they're going to be hostile or friendly, So far it's been kind of fun.
I'll never understand how people can throw away thousands of dollars just to increase some numbers in an online game like this just so they can 'win' against someone. I'm happy to say I havent put more then maybe $120 into this game since the beginning and haven't spent a penny in the last few years. All that money thrown away to those greedy corporate suits could have been spent on something tangible, like a nice vacation, a new car, or something.
I won't miss this game once it closes, I'll still be able to talk to the friends I have made worldwide.
a petition is on the way for avoid the shutdown: https://www.change.org/p/frank-d-gibeau-stop-zynga-from-closing-mafia-wars?recruiter=523158743&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=share_facebook_responsive&utm_term=des-lg-share_petition-no_msg&fb_ref=Default go sign it if u want .
I, for one will miss the game as I have met some good people through playing. I plan to keep in touch with you all but my only regret is the fact that I, amongst others have spent quite a lot of money to get where we are in the game and now Zynga have decided for me that it was all for nothing. I won't be playing any of their games in the future. It has been fun though. Hope to see you guys and gals out there in game land.
I stopped playing MW more than two years now. I migrated to a new game called WarCommander on Facebook. Great way to make friends and alliances. I still play
War Commander SUCKS even worse than MW, haha... full of cheaters and a game where the stronger get stronger and the weaker get stay weak... VERY poor game
Mafia Wars (Zynga) should be investigated. Did they really ever donate money to the charities they said they would donate to? In selling certain special loot they promised to donate to things like earthquake relief, hunger etc. Wonder if they ever really did, and if so, how much? Always wondered if it was real or a scam.
Why don't you get yourself a life?? Who the hell cares? If you didn't care 4 years ago about the donation,why the hell start caring now? Just beacause they close a game and thereby destroying your whole life?? You have a serious addiction problem...and you should be VERY VERY VERY happy that this game will be no longer... trust me. Seek help and get away from Facebook and gaming for at least a year... by then you will look back at your lame comment and think to yourself "What the HELL was I on?"
Accept that things come and go... what? You SERIOUSLY want to be playing MW for the REST of your natural life?? Imagine playing MW and feeding your addiction for another 15 years...30 years... when would enough be enough??? EVERYTHING ends... it's a fact of life... but when would YOU have liked MW to end? Never?? REALLY??? It's been 7 years...
MW, for me too, has been the only reason to login to FB. Gonna miss my family, friends & allies, a lot. My sincere thanks to all my mw friends! you've been absolutely wonderful, so generous and helpful. <3 u always - tris
well havent seen many people suggest it: Mob rise of the don is alright. They trying to capitalize, made a "try the game" package. mafiawars promo code when you sign up gives you 200 gold so you can see how far digital currency takes you
Thanks for Jen who has been guiding MW players, I quit long time ago, because the longer you play the more stamina you need to burn and its became a burden, without scripts we can't play. Anyway there are moments we cherish and here the moment everyone waiting for after so much speculation when Zynga going to shut down the game. And honestly I think they have been holding on for you guys very long .. To get everyone ready .. Cheers and just move on ...
AMAZONS have migrated to Mob War La Costa. It is mafia wars on steriods. No Zynga games ever for me that is for sure. LCN internal chat, internal requests, perks, dailies, fighting, jobbing, helping, bossfights and wars. Only 25 members in the family but they are looking into raising so Mafia War groups can migrate the whole family. Try it.
Play Boom Beach!!! It is the hottest game for over a year and make friends in task forces!!! More intwractive than MW and is animated. CoC is good too! SuoerCell games ROCK!!!
I had a dream about playing mw 6 months before I started playing, didn't recognize it at first, then it just hit me. MW was huge in my life, it lead me out of depression, I started opening up to people and communicating freely, I traveled abroad to meet two of my best mw buddies. It's because of mw i started learning photoshop and lost my fear speaking English. Yes, mw was time consuming but also rewarding. I'm happy i quit playing before seeing it end, but yet i'm going back to this blog to read some mw talks. Now, imagine if any mw bullet triggered a bullet in real life. We as human beings are gifted the power of materializing our thoughts. We just have to make our brain work out, quit the slacking, add love and soul to it. And that's it. Put our hearts into a dream. Exercise the right to be human every day. Dreams are the only thing that makes us superior to animals. GB you all.
Despite everything being said by now, I've really missed MWs, and its thrills, while reading its lines of short stories, chatting with friends and Mafia family members, the logic behind every step taken, orders of actions to be taken one after another so to keep an eye on resources and their expenditure, and ... many more.
In short, I've really missed the while Mafia Wars.
Now, guys, have you found another game similar to this one? with many little actions, to be shared with other family members? Please share them.
Recognizing the uselessness of online fantasy game play, I broke the MW addiction, cold turkey, in 2012. So glad I did for I did not realize how much time I wasted in my life on this nonsense and how I was allowing it to rob me of actual human interaction. No tears shed for this shutdown!
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Well whatever new game you pick, make sure it's not zynga... all those years of work and it can be gone any second, I guess that's life for ya..
ReplyDeleteThanks for all your help
DeleteSeriously? Lives wasted with meaningless "accomplishments." go outside... There is a great world out there.
DeleteJust wanted to thank you for all your help and advice over the years. It's been fun
ReplyDeleteVery sad but we are finally free from Zynga and this broken game that we have loved but also hated for so long. I don't think i will necessarily miss the game too much but more so the many great people I have met through the game... A big shout out also to you LL for all your efforts in keeping us informed over the years and to be fair also keeping us interested. Take care all, where ever you are in the world and whatever you do
ReplyDeleteIs it true that MW is shutting down. That's so so sad it is the only game I play :(
ReplyDeleteSame here. I have played this game since 2009. It is one of the reasons I log onto FB. I put toooo much time into the game.....and for what
DeleteSame here - been playing since early 2009, and it's a big reason I log into Facebook every day. The upside is that I'll have more time to do something useful now, but I'll still miss this game. Despite its many issues, it was still entertaining for all these years. I think I'm done with FB games after this.
DeleteSame here, since 2009. I personally didn't like MW very much since South Africa came up. The game became ever more greedy, absurd and time consuming since then.
DeleteSo I take it easy but I guess some people must be suicidal now ? ;-) The only Zynga game so far I'll continue playing ist their Poker.
If this is true then Zynga are truly fools - it was the only game worth playing and I also will miss my Mafia family madly - I think we should boycott all Zynga games!!!!
ReplyDeleteme too
DeleteYesssss
DeleteConsidering MW opened early 2008 but Myspace opened a year before (April 2007 I believe) it literally had 12 months to go before seeing a decade through. Only it'd be a real anniversary
ReplyDeletenot just a made up date so Zynga can get an event out of it. That's good for any online game not just a Zynga one. Shame they couldn't see it through a decade with 79K players they could have easily seen another year out just for the achievement.
Thank you so much for everything you have done Jen. I'd have been done with this game about 4 years ago if it wasn't for this blog.
I really feel sorry for the people that gave up there hard-earned 25 bucks a month just to play a game that ZYNGIMME$$$ just drops.
ReplyDeleteSO every single F'N' Zyngimme$$$ GAME will be DROPPED from my life.
CANCEL CANCEL CANCEL, etc...
Sounds like WALL STREET rules them anyway :-(
Yes, we all could see the writing on the wall. I have so enjoyed not only this game but meeting the many people from all over the world! I will definitely miss the camaraderie. Tho I would love to find another game to play, I am not into "farming" or "poker".
ReplyDeleteThank you Jen and LL for everything you have done for us. I will miss checking this blog and the FB page.
Zynga has really screwed itself now. Loyal players for years been treated like this. Pathetic and no class just money hungry. And they are going to put their energy in some new game which no one is going to play anyways after this. Aunts is like the titanic now.
ReplyDeleteI am going to miss the social interaction and daily routine. So much gratitude and thanks to you and your team.
Hopefully someone can either but MW or we find some new cool game 😑
exactly
DeleteNever give a junky money
ReplyDeletelook what happened June 6th, 2016
I havent really been playing the last year do to work, i have posted my links daily, but i couldnt really play any and i also kinda got abit tired of the game, barely had time to finish Mexico before LA came out and then booooom, Japan, so i could only get to district 3 in LA, wish they slowed that bit down and the game would live a tinybit longer, but thats how it is when you rush things.
ReplyDeleteKinda sad to see it go, spent my last 5-6 years playing the game, thanks to my brother i started in 2009, but I guess now is a good time to spend my 7k rp points ive been saving up the last 5 years, I have spent some, but that was ONLY an accident, lol, I accidentally bought off one of the extreme missions many years ago due to a miss click and i hadnt activated that spockholm confirmation button, that got activated right away after that lol, was done a month early with the mission though, haha.
But again, its sad to see it go. :(
This blog was good to have when it was active and there was things to do, but that also died quickly, so whats left now is just to play another 2 months, spend everything I have and move on I guess, but atleast i free up some space from my fb wall lol, but mw will still remain in my favorite games on fb, I wont delete it from that list and I can sit and look at it and sometimes click it on hope that some day it will pop up again. :D
So long mw, you will be missed not matter what, it was alot of fun no matter how you put it, goodbye MafiaWars, goodbye.
Play Clash Of Clans. Its more fun in there than MW. 😉
ReplyDeleteI doubt you'll remember me because I quit MW cold turkey about 4 years ago. I was the person who owned the Tankchair and was surprised to see MY offroad wheelchair drop in the game. It was obviously my chair as newer models were built differently and other copycat chairs had a much different chassis and tread. After much good natured correspondance between myself and Zynga asking them to give the fellow who invented my Tankchair credit, they agreed to change the name of the game loot. The inventor and myself signed permission forms for Zynga to use the image. Once that was done we heard nothing more about it and Zynga never answered any more emails regarding the matter. I haven't played a Zynga game since. They've been a dishonest company in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteHow about us MW players finding some other game to migrate to and colonize? Any suggestions as to which?
ReplyDeleteSome are going to Mob Wars. https://www.facebook.com/Mob-Wars-343577262321215/?fref=ts
ReplyDeleteMob Wars has filed a lawsuit against Zynga for copyright infringement for stealing the basis of MW from Mob Wars. THAT is why Zynga is shutting Mafia Wars down.
DeleteThat is not why they are shutting it down. That lawsuit happened in 2009 and was settled years ago
DeleteBS we all know it's just cause htey cant code shit with apis
DeleteTry this game active players and staff www.Mafiacitieslegends.com
ReplyDeleteI am very sad to see the game end. I will especially miss the many friends I have met all over the world from playing. It was a real time waster though. I do not think I will be transferring to another game. Zynga will be losing my business completely.
ReplyDeleteI was planning on finishing Japan and then quitting anyways, so this is great news as with the 10x mastery I no longer have to worry about building up consumables. I can used all of the reward points I saved up just to level so I can finish off Japan faster. I may even be able to do it today!
ReplyDeleteI wanted to quit playing about 2 years ago but since I started my family I felt I would be letting them down by doing so. So kept playing, and it's been a bad habit of mine for a long time. I'm a competitive person so just playing wasn't enough, I had to do well to derive enjoyment. I'll miss the people from the game, especially you Jen for providing a useful resource, but I certainly won't miss Zynga. I don't plan on ever playing another Zynga game again.
Zynga is not going to be around long if they drop Mafia Wars!
ReplyDeleteDeactivated all zynga games this morning including MW. Taking a short position on their shares too as I can see them heading south very quickly. Made a couple of percent just today but plenty more to come over the coming months. They're screwing themselves and i will take great pleasure in profiting from it. What they've taken away in MW I will take back in dollar bills lol.
ReplyDeleteIf Mafia wars goes so will I , I won't be playing any other Zynga games.
ReplyDeleteSince they are closing and there are 10X mastery, I wish they would do so we didnt need any loot or money to do the jobs, I wish that so i could finish the jobs, havent even started on Japan, got only to district 3 in LA.
ReplyDeleteBut MafiaWars, we are sad to see you go, its the game ive been playing longest I think and I play alot of multiplayer games on my PC, its either the longest or its tied with another game, hehe.
MW was fun atleast with NY and Cuba and Moscow, I remember the last Moscow job being sooooo hard, needed 13k energy per click or was it 1300(?), now these days I could have done have the job in one energy pool or something or the whole thing. :P
A lot of people spent real money on this game. And yet this is the result. Lesson I've learned. Never spend real money on a virtual game because it isn't tangible and can be taken away from you in a second. I will also be boycotting Zynga. For now I am playing a game called "Island Experiment" You start out on an island that's pretty hostile and you have to fight carnivorous spiders and build up your island and then there's an entire archipelago of islands to set sail for all of which have interesting prospects. There are also strangers washing ashore, and some of the other islands are inhabited. You never know if they're going to be hostile or friendly, So far it's been kind of fun.
ReplyDeleteI'll never understand how people can throw away thousands of dollars just to increase some numbers in an online game like this just so they can 'win' against someone. I'm happy to say I havent put more then maybe $120 into this game since the beginning and haven't spent a penny in the last few years. All that money thrown away to those greedy corporate suits could have been spent on something tangible, like a nice vacation, a new car, or something.
DeleteI won't miss this game once it closes, I'll still be able to talk to the friends I have made worldwide.
a petition is on the way for avoid the shutdown: https://www.change.org/p/frank-d-gibeau-stop-zynga-from-closing-mafia-wars?recruiter=523158743&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=share_facebook_responsive&utm_term=des-lg-share_petition-no_msg&fb_ref=Default go sign it if u want .
ReplyDeleteI, for one will miss the game as I have met some good people through playing. I plan to keep in touch with you all but my only regret is the fact that I, amongst others have spent quite a lot of money to get where we are in the game and now Zynga have decided for me that it was all for nothing.
ReplyDeleteI won't be playing any of their games in the future.
It has been fun though. Hope to see you guys and gals out there in game land.
Try Xbox, actually decent games on there!
ReplyDeleteI stopped playing MW more than two years now. I migrated to a new game called WarCommander on Facebook. Great way to make friends and alliances. I still play
ReplyDeleteWar Commander SUCKS even worse than MW, haha... full of cheaters and a game where the stronger get stronger and the weaker get stay weak... VERY poor game
DeleteClash of clans join the WARSOURCE LLC CLAN
ReplyDeletePLAY CLASH OF CLANS ON GOOGLE PLAY JOIN THE CLAN WARSOURCE LLC WE WILL WELCOME YOU TELL US ZYNGA SENT YOU
ReplyDeleteMafia Wars (Zynga) should be investigated. Did they really ever donate money to the charities they said they would donate to? In selling certain special loot they promised to donate to things like earthquake relief, hunger etc. Wonder if they ever really did, and if so, how much? Always wondered if it was real or a scam.
ReplyDeleteWhy don't you get yourself a life?? Who the hell cares? If you didn't care 4 years ago about the donation,why the hell start caring now? Just beacause they close a game and thereby destroying your whole life?? You have a serious addiction problem...and you should be VERY VERY VERY happy that this game will be no longer... trust me. Seek help and get away from Facebook and gaming for at least a year... by then you will look back at your lame comment and think to yourself "What the HELL was I on?"
DeleteAccept that things come and go... what? You SERIOUSLY want to be playing MW for the REST of your natural life?? Imagine playing MW and feeding your addiction for another 15 years...30 years... when would enough be enough??? EVERYTHING ends... it's a fact of life... but when would YOU have liked MW to end? Never?? REALLY??? It's been 7 years...
Find a new Game lol I quit Mafia wars 2 days ago because of the shutdown and will never play another Zynga game!!
ReplyDeleteMW, for me too, has been the only reason to login to FB.
ReplyDeleteGonna miss my family, friends & allies, a lot.
My sincere thanks to all my mw friends! you've been absolutely wonderful, so generous and helpful.
<3 u always
- tris
well havent seen many people suggest it: Mob rise of the don is alright. They trying to capitalize, made a "try the game" package. mafiawars promo code when you sign up gives you 200 gold so you can see how far digital currency takes you
ReplyDeleteThanks for Jen who has been guiding MW players, I quit long time ago, because the longer you play the more stamina you need to burn and its became a burden, without scripts we can't play. Anyway there are moments we cherish and here the moment everyone waiting for after so much speculation when Zynga going to shut down the game. And honestly I think they have been holding on for you guys very long .. To get everyone ready .. Cheers and just move on ...
ReplyDeleteScopely's Walking Dead: Road to Survival ...so much more fun...and oh-so-mobile!
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ReplyDeleteAMAZONS have migrated to Mob War La Costa. It is mafia wars on steriods. No Zynga games ever for me that is for sure. LCN internal chat, internal requests, perks, dailies, fighting, jobbing, helping, bossfights and wars. Only 25 members in the family but they are looking into raising so Mafia War groups can migrate the whole family. Try it.
ReplyDeleteNo more games for me...thanks for all your help ll :) xoxo i stil think you are Angela ..the Captain .@-@
ReplyDeleteNO...THANK YOU!
ReplyDeletePlay Boom Beach!!! It is the hottest game for over a year and make friends in task forces!!! More intwractive than MW and is animated. CoC is good too! SuoerCell games ROCK!!!
ReplyDeletei was tired of mafia wars i could not go any further id already finised everthing months ago
ReplyDeleteJust want 2 say to every militia family members go fu...k yourselves. Lol all the money you guys put on this and its now bye bye LMAO
ReplyDeleteI had a dream about playing mw 6 months before I started playing, didn't recognize it at first, then it just hit me. MW was huge in my life, it lead me out of depression, I started opening up to people and communicating freely, I traveled abroad to meet two of my best mw buddies. It's because of mw i started learning photoshop and lost my fear speaking English. Yes, mw was time consuming but also rewarding. I'm happy i quit playing before seeing it end, but yet i'm going back to this blog to read some mw talks.
ReplyDeleteNow, imagine if any mw bullet triggered a bullet in real life. We as human beings are gifted the power of materializing our thoughts. We just have to make our brain work out, quit the slacking, add love and soul to it. And that's it. Put our hearts into a dream. Exercise the right to be human every day. Dreams are the only thing that makes us superior to animals.
GB you all.
Despite everything being said by now, I've really missed MWs, and its thrills, while reading its lines of short stories, chatting with friends and Mafia family members, the logic behind every step taken, orders of actions to be taken one after another so to keep an eye on resources and their expenditure, and ... many more.
ReplyDeleteIn short, I've really missed the while Mafia Wars.
Now, guys, have you found another game similar to this one? with many little actions, to be shared with other family members? Please share them.
Thanks.
Recognizing the uselessness of online fantasy game play, I broke the MW addiction, cold turkey, in 2012. So glad I did for I did not realize how much time I wasted in my life on this nonsense and how I was allowing it to rob me of actual human interaction. No tears shed for this shutdown!
ReplyDelete