I was asked to make yet another post about the bad ratios players receive in the Arena. It all started on March 6th when Zynga announced that Respect would no longer be something we could lose [1]. As a side note, it was added that there would be some interesting surprises. We were all very surprised to learn that the experience payout ratios were increased [1]. The ratios shown in the 1st screen shot became the expected norm. That is until Arena Happy Hours started happening on a regular basis. After every Happy Hour in which players are guaranteed the best possible payout regardless of placement, the ratios revert back to what they were before the improvement was made [1]. This has been going on for months and it seems Zynga no longer cares about readjusting them to what they should be. They have been crap for weeks now. With caps on passive experience, it’s no longer practical for the masses to utilize the Arena. If they don’t intend on changing things back, the least they could do is inform their player base. As it stands, all we can do is guess. Is it intended or is it a bug? Either way it sucks!
“Stay tuned to the Arena for some interesting surprises!”
Good Ratios VS Bad Ratios
This especially sucks because sometimes I go into 500s with full stammy and get 1st place or just get some bad luck and get thrown in with the monsters to be their chew toy and get 6th
ReplyDeletewho gives a faq its just a lousy game
DeleteAnd yet, they constantly force us into the arena for missions or to collect stuff. I don't think they change the ratios because it forces players to buy stamina packs. Zynga no longer cares where the money comes from and how they collect it, all they care about is that it comes in.
ReplyDeleteOK, maybe the ratios aren't the greatest but you expect more than 1.85 for coming in last place? If you get decent ratios for losing, where is the incentive to improve? My main purpose for the arena is I do not have to spend a whole lot of time playing this game. I am now able to get all my family progression in about an hour. And for that, I will sacrifice the high ratios. If I want better ratios, I will smack people around in the fight list. Every day I am able to achieve both 57800 damage and 150 ices. It is all good for me ::):)
ReplyDeleteput 2 zero after that in each case...i get that much
DeleteI have 10k in stamina, sometimes I get first place, and sometimes I get 6th place and the rest of the time I get whats in between, but since I refuse to use health refills the majority of the time, I am pretty satisfied with the results
ReplyDeleteAs the community seems to be letting zynga get away with the changes to passive XP with little or no complaint what can you expect? If they get away with changing the rules/not fixing an issue once why shouldnt they do it again? Just saying....... ;-)
ReplyDeletethank you jennifer
ReplyDeleteScrew arenas ...I've gone back to smashing fight jobs with my alt. Takes about the same time to get rid of the stamina but he'll ALWAYS get 2.3 from his stamina.
ReplyDeleteIt would be good to see an factual presentation of the complete picture.
ReplyDelete1. Some people have multiple accounts
2. Some people make a main account stronger by hitting them all day
3. Some people use arenas to make huge accounts quickly so they can use it to hit main accounts.
4. Zynga gets no money from people that are smart enough and dedicated enough to run multiples.
5. The exp ratio in arena is related to this simply because it allows building red hitters much faster than fighting or doing vegas jobs.
6. Legit spenders are not very happy at this point because a fairly large population of remaining players are getting very strong for free.
7. Lets be sure to point out that zynga is very much guilty of not fully understanding the magnitude of how easy it had become to make huge fighters for free. Now they do seem to understand this and have taken steps to make it more difficult such as limiting passive exp and reducing ratio for lower placements in arena.
Where does it all stand then? Basically some of the exploit methods are now less effective, so people that used these for a very long time are impacted because they can play less now and further increasing stats is much more difficult without $. I say boo effin hoo to that, but also these players are the "glue" of the community. Z is in a big pickle here. If they leave everything as it was, they watch the tit run dry, if they completely remove exploits a huge part of player base is effectively done as they won't level for days at a time (alternate ending). Any way you cut it, game is pretty much toast.
I agree, their big mistake was the exp carry over. They presented the community with a great leveling tool and nothing more. Those who use it as intended get screwed. The Arena has probably cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars.
DeleteEverything is getting worse, Ive just cancelled my vip, havent bought rps for a while, getting more fed up by the day with the same old same old, its about time up for me and this game, its just not interesting anymore
ReplyDeletelol... i feel sorry for you folks who still play this silly game :)
ReplyDeleteI love the drama you create. The Arena was never a place to get good ratios or a lot of ices. If you want a good ratio, save up your rob squads and go rob in NY (3.3 exp/stamina). Even without rob squads, it's at least 2.65.
ReplyDeleteI use the Arena because I can burn through my stamina quickly and I get credit for all my stamina when I level up via the Arena. That's it. It was nice to get the best Arena payout, but it's not a big deal if I don't.
sweet thx
Delete“Stay tuned to the Arena for some interesting surprises!”
ReplyDeleteWe're gonna screw ya....ha ha ha ha
Kathie
I spend very little and I am doing well in the Arena when I play it. I come in 1st often and I haven't placed lower than 3rd in a long time. I just go in there every few days after I collect my London and Brazil properties and I have some extra stamina on hand. I've noticed this bug recently and I think I will save my stamina packs and just fight on the fighters board for a while. I've been playing this stupid game 4 years and am only level ll24 but my fights won are higher than my fights lost and if and when it closes I haven't put that much money in it, only time and building.
ReplyDeleteArena ratios are fine if you don't spend much stamina. A typical example would be you spend 500 stamina at the start, 300 stamina recharges, which leaves you with a net spend of 200 stamina. A 6th place finish earns 900XP (4.5), 5th 950XP (4.75), and 4th 1000XP (5.0). Those are pretty good ratios.
ReplyDeleteSince arena victories just signify your desire to spend large amounts of stamina at one time and nothing else, low ratios are the price you pay for the false vanity of victory. The Arena isn't like regular fights where abilities matter.
I still only use the Arena to get three things done.
ReplyDelete1) get my 150 ices quick so I can play afterwards without worrying about how much stamina I burn trying to break Chi Health which is my hobbie.
2) To dump leftover stamina and carry the exp to next level
3) Getting close to time for bed and I have plenty of leveling left so I burn fast in the Arena.
Either way the Arena is just a tool
The arena is getting to be total crap with the low ratios 4-6th place. I never come in 1st or 2nd so those ratios only go to the top players. I get thrown in with the top 5 in Toronado as if I could ever win. I now use it just to level with my leftover stamina.
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