Yeah, I'm just as sick of writing about this as you are of reading about it. Zynga has more to say for those of you interested, read below. I do want to know where this less than 1% came from. Just about everyone I know got rolled back. Maybe they really do think our energy accounts are part of the dismal player base.
On August 3, 2011, the Mafia Wars team corrected the amount of Declare War loot in the accounts of players who inadvertently received extra loot from Declare War. This error affected less than 1 percent of Mafia Wars players, but wreaked havoc on the entire fighting ecosystem.
We understand that many players did not know they were receiving additional loot that gave them an unfair advantage in the game. We apologize that our error added too many valuable loot items to the accounts of players who were simply trying to help friends win wars or who didn’t even participate in Declare War. While we do not want to punish players for helping their friends, we made the decision to adjust those affected by this error to maintain a level playing field for everyone.
Yesterday's adjustment corrected the amount of loot only in the accounts of players affected by our error, making sure that nobody ended up with more than the maximum allowed per day. Players who paid to speed up their Declare War timers were credited with additional items.
We welcome your continued feedback via this survey.
Sincerely,
The Mafia Wars Team
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The Mafia Wars Team
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courtesy reach-around?
ReplyDeletei was awarded 52 extrAa items for 26 wars i paid for.... funny thing is.... ive never paid for a war. Support admitted that the system used was flawed and more investigation needed to be done.
ReplyDeleteI'm done with this.
ReplyDeleteI got no pop-up to tell me what my compensation was or that they had removed anything....an email to them was a cut and paste of their statement on their support page....i'll be contacting my cc company to rectify this.Remove the loot, that's fine, but show me proof of compensation of the rp's i spent...
ReplyDeleteI have done the math here. Using the "appropriate rate of war loot drops".... you could potentially get 11 pieces of war loot per day (5 from assists and 6 from winning your own war - 2 each 3 times per day). Level 4 and 5 war loot was released on June 24th - 41 days ago. So elementary school math tells me that is 451 pieces of possible level 4 and 5 war loot. Somehow today I have only 228 total pieces. My level 5 loot alone is down from 315 pieces yesterday (a reasonable number) to 136. In addition - yesterday i had 0 of an item and today i have 19. (lower stat item that i don't use anyway). I would LOVE to know zynga's methodology for this rollback, as I am sure the 1% (cough bs cough) of us it affected would.
ReplyDeleteThe real ball-buster in this statment is this sentence "While we do not want to punish players for helping their friends, we made the decision to adjust those affected by this error to maintain a level playing field for everyone.".
ReplyDeleteThey made a decision in order to maintain a LEVEL playing field for everyone. This seems to say, to me, that if you become to strong in the future, they first look to see if you spent money on reward points. If you did, then you get to stay strong. If you didn't, you get rolled back because you MUST have been cheating in some way that we can not determine.
And I agree, Jen, I haven't found anyone that was NOT rolled back.
Small percentage my ass!
Mafia Wars: Declare War Loot Adjustment Survey
ReplyDeleteYour explanation was pitiful at best.
There is no rhyme or reason to the way this was approached. There is NO clear explanation for how you ascertained the amount of loot, when and how it was obtained, and the reasoning for leaving the loot the order in which it was gained is FALSE
I purchased the speed up option, yet i got nothing in return for it, yet i see others who got INSANE amounts of loot (1000+), yet it was all worthless loot, and you didnt even tell the people what you padded their accounts with. LAME
There is NO consistency in your attempts to rollback accts
You threatened rollbacks last year when there were glitches on Xmas/New Years items, yet NEVER followed through, still to this day, people have 1000's of these items
How about the unfair advantage on the Brazil Ruby Loot? Was there ever an attempt to LEVEL the playing field on those. NOPE
While im not even entertaining the idea of quiting, as i have invested alot of time and hard earned cash to fund the games expansions, you will NEVER see another dime from me>
and i hope you enjoy the further drop in Daily/Monthly users
It would behoove you to actually hire a programmer that knows what they are doing in the future, or you can kiss this franchise goodbye
I for one would LOVE to know zynga's methodology for this latest snafu. Using the "new math" you could potentially receive 11 pieces of war loot per day - 5 from assists and 6 from winning your own war (2 items each of the 3 declarations per 24hour period). 2nd grade multiplication would tell us that is a possible 451 pieces of war loot in that time. After their little "surprise" yesterday I now have only 228 pieces of 4/5 loot. Yesterday I had 315 pieces of level 5 loot alone.. today that number is 136. To top it off... i had 0 of a specific item and now have 19 (low stats i don't use anyway). So their little take-away makes no sense. How about zynga sharing what they used to determine who got what? and if only 1% got rolled back i must know most of them cause it is aaaaaaallll over my newsfeed.
ReplyDeletezyngas Blah blah blah, lies...
ReplyDeletehow did you arrive in 1 percent error, when all of my mafia friends att/def were deducted...
ZYNGA, U suck big time, period!
BOYCOTT MW...ZYNGA U SUCK...
ReplyDeletehttp://www.facebook.com/groups/BoycottZynga/
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=253364011349399
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-All-Zynga-Games/211172578920107
ReplyDeleteOK, I saw this one coming once I saw the level of people jumping on the MWAP/MW Addon wagon and running their computers 24/7 to grab wars. I actually had to band with friends to get any war loot during this madness.
ReplyDeleteI received the notice as did many but my numbers did not drop at all this week.
I found one inactive player in my mafia using 1711 pieces of tier 4 & 5 loot just on his defensive arsenal. He had added over 6,000 war assists in the 6 weeks that he was able to, and denied he was doing so. He has been rolled back over 40,000 combined and I am calculating that the group he belonged to, of about 60 people, lost a total of 1 to 1.5 million in arsenal attack and defense combined.
As to 1%, you have to figure account wise, there are probably 30 or more million accounts for mafia wars. These are simply accounts including the dormant ones at level 1.
Another 4 friends of mine did not lose any of their loot.
To Zynga: THIS IS A STUPID WAY TO HANDLE GLITCHES - WHEN A GLITCH CAUSED PLAYER'S LOSS, YOU INTENTIONALLY DRAG THE SUFFERING FOR WEEKS (WITH MEALY-MOUTHED "COMPLEXITY" EXCUSE FOR THAT) BUT IF IT BENEFITED THE PLAYERS, YOU QUICKLY, BLATANTLY DO ROLLBACK ON TOO MANY ACCOUNTS EVEN THE ONES WHO'RE NOT USING THEM JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN DO THE ROLLBACK - *DO NOT EVER* DO ANY ROLLBACKS LIKE THIS AGAIN, OR I AM COMPLETELY SURE THAT EVERYONE WILL LEAVE YOUR GAME AND YOU'LL BE BANKRUPT IN RECORD TIME. FYI I HAVE QUIT THE GAME SINCE A WHILE AGO, WAS ONCE CONSIDERING TO COME BACK TO THE GAME BUT NOW FIRMLY DECIDED NOT TO BECAUSE OF YOUR STUPID, EGOISTIC DECISIONS!!!
ReplyDelete- "On August 3, 2011, the Mafia Wars team adjusted the accounts of players who inadvertently received extra loot from Declare War, giving them a significant, unfair advantage over those who did not." - WTF ABOUT THE UNFAIR ADVANTAGE? THESE GLITCH AFFECTED VIRTUALLY ALL PLAYERS, IT'S THEIR LOSS IF THEY DID NOT GET THE EXTRA LOOT IN SOME WAY (WHO DOESN'T WANT TO TAKE RAINING GOLD FROM THE SKY WHEN THEY KNOW IT? IF THEY DON'T SEE IT, IT'S THEIR LOSS) - ANYWAY, THIS ADVANTAGE IS NOT SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH YET IS VERY PISSING OFF IF YOU ROB IT OUT OF PLAYERS (SEE THE NEXT POINT)
- "This error wreaked havoc on the entire fighting ecosystem": AS YOU SAID, LESS THAN 1 PERCENT RECEIVED IT AND THEY GET MORE STRENGTH OUT FROM OTHER HIGH-END ITEMS RATHER THAN FROM THIS GLITCH (EVEN HIGH-END FIGHT LOOTS ARE BETTER THAN MANY OF THE WAR LOOTS THAT YOU INSIST ON ROLLING BACK) - EPIC FAIL
- "so we removed the extra Declare War loot to provide a level playing field for all players": WHAT DOES "LEVEL PLAYING FIELD" MEAN? IT'S A TOTAL BS AS THERE CAN NEVER BE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD IF YOU ALLOW PEOPLE TO BUY THEIR WAY AHEAD IN THE GAME (INSTEAD OF EARNING IT VIA IN-GAME MEANS), STOP ABUSING THAT PHRASE BEFORE YOUR ACTIVE PLAYER COUNT GOT LEVELED DOWN
- "We corrected the accounts of those affected by this error, but understand that many players feel they are being unfairly punished for a glitch in our systems." - THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME YOU DID THIS, A GLITCH IS *YOUR* MISTAKE *NOT OURS* SO PLEASE SUCK IT UP AND MOVE ON
- "Our response to this error was necessary to keep Mafia Wars fun for everyone": IT WAS NECESSARY JUST FOR YOUR EGO AND DICTATORSHIP, THE GAME IS ALREADY NO FUN FOR EVERYONE WHETHER THERE IS A RESPONSE OR NOT BECAUSE YOU'VE RUINED IT ALL VIA UNNECESSARY CHANGES THAT BROKE THE GAME (AND YOUR RESPONSE MAKE IT EVEN LESS FUN THAN IT WAS EVER BEFORE)