One of my stronger mafia members sent me this profile and couldn't figure out why he lost when he attacked it.
I gave it a go and lost was well. I know equipment scores don't have near the value of skill points but it is unsettling to see that Nobody has a equipment defense score of 117,784 and my attack score is 150,156.
I took a better look at Nobody's equipment and noticed there were no Loyalty Program loot items to indicate that this player spent money to increase his Defense Skill Points. Since he is a level 2,236, he has to be putting skill points into energy or stamina so I can't figure out why I and those stronger than me can't beat him. Maybe this is an example of an injected account and this player dumped all his illegally obtained skill points into his defense? Let me know what you think.
| Article written by Jennifer Patterson, Creator of the MW Loot Lady Blog, The Mafia Wars Loot Lady Facebook Fan Page and Co-Host of The Informant Podcast. |
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that is why i just about feed up with this game
ReplyDeleteHis account is two years old so if played almost everyday that is quite a bit of skill and since they just started the LP program a few months ago we really have no way of knowing if he purchased RP.
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he might be a jackpot winner ????
ReplyDeleteHad a pop and lost so thought I would compare our inventory items. I had far superior weapons on all counts. Guess at that level they have more skills that I do. Maybe it is about time Zynga looked at some new maths for fighting. Like how about using the experience figure from the profile page + stats + skills. I had my arse kicked by a level 420 the other day 800 levels below me. Thats why long term loyal players are getting hacked off, we get the bum end of the deal basically.
ReplyDeleteheres a real hacker
ReplyDeletehttp://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/profile.php?id=%7B%22user%22%3A%22cHw0ODY3MzkzMA%3D%3D%22%7D
over 18000 defense and not even gold!
looks like he beat you in personal skills....see yours are RED.
ReplyDeleteyeah he is fishy, jinni is right
ReplyDelete@Anonymous #3, that's not true. It is quite a bit of skill but if he had defensive skill points to beat a player with over 20K combines, how did he get to over Level 2,000? Skills have to be put in energy and stamina to get to that level in 2 years. The Loyalty Program is new but when it was introduced players got credit for past purchases. I started out as a Gold Player and automatically had the loot item to go with it.
ReplyDelete@anonymous #6, yes I know he beat me in skill which is the whole point of this post. Where did he get them from? He didn't buy them.
@Anonymous #4, that's a possibility.
pretty sad u post an acct and call cheat when u get beat. Everything you are reading from what u post says nothing. You cannot see personal skills. LVL 2k+ equals minimum 10k+ attk if thats where u put em all. And thats more than the 4k u have. Just an observation :p
ReplyDeleteI beat him. Nothing appears to be out of the ordinary.
ReplyDeletego beat my link from above mak
ReplyDelete@anonymous #6, did u not read the post? I didn't call him a cheat, I said it looks like it could be injected and asked for others to attack and give their opinion. The person who brought the account to my attention has over 20K combined A/D scores. Obviously if I lost on my own, I wouldn't have made the post.
ReplyDeletewell, i cant beat him, and i have double skills than you Jinni (8,5K attack). Also, my weapon attack is around 144K. However, i am just a level 1130 and he is more than 1000 levels above me. As a conclusion, being an experienced player, i would say that i have seen much worse accounts during the last few months. This one is not necesarily injected, but i have seen level 300 account with 170K defense weapons and more than 9K skillls defense. The funny thing was that he didnt even have 501 mafia members !!! LOL - go figure.......
ReplyDeletea time ago befor the loyality program there was a glitch on having alot of skill points ... thus maybe he was from the luckiest people at that time... for each level you could obtain till 100 skill points:)
ReplyDeleteI gave him a 'lil tap and got my a$$ beat. My Mafia A/d are slightly higher, with skills 800 above yours Jen. Looking at his stats tells me he invests in defense and a lot of it. I'd like to see what his attack is. He has 81 hitlist kills compared to my 250. Also, he's only won @133K fights compared to my 1 mil. I'll bet he can't fight his way out of a paper bag.
ReplyDeleteprobably from game cards, dumped them all into skill.
ReplyDeleteur weak for a lvl 1800, very weak.
ReplyDeleteTotally a cheater!
ReplyDeletelol i have seen a level 400 with emerald stats and NEW profile that i couldnt beat... and even one of my best mafia with 11k atk couldnt do it ^^
ReplyDeletebam reported him to zynga xD
i bought about 10k RP 2 yrs ago n now i still emerald. i'm lvl 2k now :D
ReplyDeleteWhy does everyone who is up in a levels calling someone they lose to that is lower in levels a cheater. Why can't us lower level just know that you pour all your skill points into attack and defense. Higher skill points in those areas will result in kicking your tail every time no matter what the numbers are for your attack total. I was always told a good fighter has 3 times skill points his level. A great fighter has 5 times. And a superior fighter has 8x's or more skill points than his actual level. Hence level 660, attack and defense skill points combined over 12k. So what I put money into my account, I can do that !
ReplyDeleteJust goes to show you Zynga is taking advantage of people trying to get them to spend money on Marketplace RP items when they don't matter. Skill points matter.
ReplyDeleteIt's only prudent to check potential cheaters. It wrecks the game when extreme cheating flies under the radar. Somebody has to shine the light on the cockroaches. Report every one of them to Zynga and let them sort it out.
ReplyDeleteI do not think it is a cheater account... a cheater would not bother to collect the bangkok sentry unit boost.
ReplyDeleteMy top stat is defense also and it dwarfs my attack stat 3/1.
Most throw their skill points towards attack ...I lean towards the other route..defense first.
I beat him with these stats but he still had higher Deff then my attack Skill.
ReplyDeleteMafia Attack Strength 149,484
Attack Skill 12,095
definitely very high defense, low attack skill. if he did that, h e could just refill and ppls keep giving him free exp. i get 2-3 level a day by doing that. but that was no fun, so i stop. so...keep giving him free exp guys/girls.
ReplyDeleteLongest Hitlist Survival 01:59:51
ReplyDeleteRobbing Wins 37199
Robbing Losses 546
Robbing Board Clears (9-0) 2830
fb id http://www.facebook.com/reqs.php#!/profile.php?id=1018936087 If you wanna ask his secret to winning
How much is your defense skills?
ReplyDeleteI still think I'm quitting this game. Men of War seems fun!
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Jenn... where did you get so many vcoins to grab so many silenced sniper riffle and sharks????
ReplyDeletebtw, can't beat the guy too with 7774 skills point in attack and 143.979 in equipment....
A friend of mine came across a player named Nobody that had higher stats than this... I cant pull up his page, but she has pics of his loot and scores, over 184k... just look in her pics..
ReplyDeletehttp://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#!/profile.php?id=1792066695
I don't know, it happens to me often, I attack people who have 10k,20k or 30k less defense than I have attack and they are only about level 1000 plus they don't have loyalty items, but I lose...I still say there is a random element in fighting, same as in robbing and you can lose to somebody like that sometimes, my personal opinion anyway
ReplyDeleteJinni, the link you posted is from a Zynga employee. Check out his Facebook profile http://www.facebook.com/dorion.carroll
ReplyDeletelol..he can compensate himself from nothing...haha..as for me i lost to all the players above..non cc player here..
ReplyDeleteLOL you gotta be kiddn right? maybe a cheat but maybe not... in 2 years of playing with out paying im level 1050 with 10k combined A/D so he could be 20k combined easy! top heavy in defense? eg 1k attack 19K defense? so just because some one with 20K combined lost to him means nothing! (sourgrapes I think lol)
ReplyDeletedo the maths seriously now! you mention he must be energy/stamina heavy to be that level... who's to say he didnt do some serious leveling using a auto play script before the social job cap came in??? not to mention the nerf of capo exp as well & the various early glitches with some jobs etc that allowed some to gain tons of levels in a matter of hours... not that fishy after all now if he was under level 1000 I might raise & eye brow & the huge difference in weapons pfft seriously come on now mine suck compared to allot I see now & I beat them so go figure skills are still KING! loot means **** all, sure it plays a big part but not nearly as much as skills.
*shaking head* I would like to think I know the odd thing or 2 about the game lol & thought you were a guru on everything MW Jen but this post wasnt really thought through in every way possible... sorry just my opinion as there are so many variables not taken into consideration... guess you would be unsettled by me whooping your but lol as your a platinum player 800 odd levels above me a emerald player (LVL 10) with better skill points...damn does that make smell fishy too??? :D
Seems it is a passiv Level up Account... nice guy damn cool, without invest from money he could made this easy approx 15000 Defskillpoints... and don´t forget the loyality Programm starts later as he plays so he could invest into Def Skills before these Lol Programm Items are avaiable.... He loots only Toxic Gas Scrubber 20 and Golden Frogs 14 pcs. so he hasn´t a lot Stamina or doesn´t fight ;-p.... thats a passive Def Account and this guy should be a idol.... Thumb up Nobody , i like your Playstyle :D
ReplyDeleteI don't buy the "he started playing before the LP was released..." bit. I know I had purchased RP BEFORE the LP was released and when it was released I was immediately put into Gold loyalty. Clan members I know that had spent a lot on RP before the LP went straight to Platinum once the LP was released. So, don't tell me that buying RP before the LP was released has no affect on it.
ReplyDeleteEven if the account was injected, there would still be LP items...lil dog or harbinger unless it was really injected meaning the database was hacked and points directly inserted.
Who knows....
Easily put, everyone who I can't beat and everyone that can beat me are cheaters. yeahhhhhh
ReplyDeleteto azizul..its not that simple, if u read carefully this assumption was made from some info from the stats..if you excessively put point into def/attack you will be very slow in levelling..as you know levelling is a big resource of point beside the chop shop n etc..
ReplyDeletethis guy played mw about the same time with me and now about the same level also..i m non cc player, almost everyday playing and my att/def only 7400+ combined and energy + stamina = 12000..my game play is recently change and able to levell about ten times instead of 2 or 3 a day before.. if i change a bit of my game play i will lost my levelling routine..so i think i know how his/her game play roughly..
his levelling power came from energy and looking at job done stat i think his energy around 7000 - 8000 (that's alot) and i know that this is not enough to level many times a day coz he need around 26000+ experience to level and the best job around 2x the energy and i think his/her stamina around 1000 only..
his/her defence is more than 12000 and his attack also is very high considering his robbing board clears for that amount of robbing is high..the robbing losess also very small showing that his/her attack point is very high..i dont want to put any number on his/her attack though but i think its more than 6k..
someone with this stat he/she cant afford to level to 2000+ over a period one year and 3 months and at the same time put enormous point on his att/def stat EXCEPT he is a cc player, or won jackpot, or he/she got some glitch or a cheater...
considering he is only an emerald player..his stats have some doubt..i agree with jane when she said something fishy here..
and i want to add some more points here that he/she above dont use ps mwap script(this good for levelling)...coz his job assists n war assist is small..except he/she turned off that feature but i dont think so coz he/she will get experienced for the job assist..
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JEnnifer you are a real loser.........you order your mafia to attack and report an account just coz u lost a fight..............that's soooo foolish of you.I just could'nt stop laughing myself.PITY
ReplyDelete-An experienced mafia wars guy
and by the way who told you that you cannot be strong until unless you buy RP.there was a time when we used to get 30 skills every level.He must have played at that time and got all the skills
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this guy noboy has over 200000 defence skill this is why you lost
ReplyDeleteWell as someone allready mentioned in earlier comment he might be one of the lucky Jackpot winners in Slot Machines? I suppose when winning a jackpot would not bring you up on gold or platinum level in loyalty program.
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