Aug 17, 2015

Fight Carnage Experience/Stamina Ratios: Bad News

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UPDATE: To combat this issue, Zynga is offering a Fight Happy Hour for a 'Limited Time'. Hopefully the time will coincide with Fight Carnage.



The Fight Carnage feature sounds like a good thing and there is a lot of potential. I really enjoyed it the first few clicks. If you keep going, a huge problem will present itself...the experience/stamina ratios are not good at all. If you win a fight, you will get a range between 1.67 and 2.06. If you lose a fight you get a ratio of 1.0. Most will not be able to serial level if they choose fighting as their main source of stamina consumption. Unless this changes, I predict everyone will go back to the Arena or do stamina jobs. The very bad news is burning you last bits of stamina via fighting (as most players do) will yield lower experience returns and may prevent you from leveling. Perhaps this is what Zynga want to slow down the serial levelers. Please let us know your ratios in the comments so we have a bigger pool of data to look at.

20 comments:

  1. Why on ALL city's?
    They need a least have 1 city where you can do "old" way of fighting!!
    I love(d) to click my mousse but now its stupid!
    Also i was able to keep on leveling with my script,but now its over and out!
    Zynga realy go on the dark path of shutting down this game.
    I hope the scripts will give us a good solution!!
    And for all you scripthaters,i play a lot manual! But i love it when my script can do all the work when i am not around!

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  2. Pathetic Zyngtard illogic at work once again doing their best to chase players away from the game. This is a stab directly at the script users who most likely are the only reason the game still exists. The ratios are worthless after the first few battles. Fighting is now moot for advancement.

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  3. I have no idea about the ratios or anything. But for those of us who fight manually, it is even slower than usual. The only bonus for me was getting all the hats for the challenge mission quickly. now to arena for my ices and more hats

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  4. MY WIFE WILL BE HAPPY IF THIS IS THE END OF MW. :\

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  5. how long is it running for do you think its killed my game im little health one click im self iced

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  6. The very bad news is NOT the lower experience ratio (that's just bad). The very bad news is that I deal LESS damage. In the old system I dealt about three times more damage in about a quarter of the time. As I have 10k stam I reckon you would need at least 30k stam to deal more damage with this.

    Btw: Hitlist is disabled (likely because of this event)

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  7. I'm getting a solid ratio of 2.2 per loss. .. which is great. which also leads me to think my math is wrong lmao.

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    1. You are getting 2.2 because of Happy Hour. If the new fighting is made permanent, I suspect the Happy Hours will become as scarce as hen's teeth, and everyone will be stuck with piss poor fight ratios.

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  8. What is the drop rate of the Challenge Mission consumable (bladehead) now? I got all 20 BEFORE Fight Carnage was active. Do you get more than one per fight like other loot?

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  9. This stiflingly stupid move by Zynga demonstrates why the massive explosion that rocked China's large port city a few days ago would have better served MW players if it had occurred at the Zynga cube farm/slave pit where the fight carnage idea was hatched and implemented.

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  10. This is why I never depend on stamina to do serial level up cos its always a random ratio of winning and worse, u get less when u lose. Always focus on serial level up via doing jobs as it always give fixed good exp vs energy ratio and always within a few clicks and u can level up in LA especially. I've completed all LA districts to ruby level, killed Hex and really enjoyed all the serial leveling up endlessly without using any stamina. lol...

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    1. Stamina is an important part of the game though, and you need at least a good 50,000 stamina to complete most ice based events easily, although I agree if you're serial leveling focus more on energy than stamina.

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  11. Yes, this carnage can gain good exp/Stam ratio but if lose, the ratio will be decreased. Whereas if u focus on doing jobs, there's no downside at all cos it always give fixed exp vs energy ratio and sometimes within few clicks of doing jobs, u get 50% more exp! Eg, if u do a job of 2.25 times ratio, sometimes u get 50% more exp which means this 2.25 times can become 3.37 times and no downside plus u can serial level in shortest time and gain RP and cash immediately.

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  12. ALL, and I mean ALL VIP members need to cancel their donations...The Fat Lady has jumped the shark for sure.

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  13. Fighting manually is a bore. There is this five second wait timer. Re healing is sped up and seems to happen faster than you can ice someone. Stamina is gone in a flash with few ices to show for it. Yup... arena...
    Zynga this was one STUPID idea!

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  14. (Reply to Zynga Survey)

    (Suggestions)
    Allow players to set the number (or percentage) of stamina points they wish to use in their attacks.

    (Feedback)
    This completely changes the way a vital statistic has functioned since the birth of Mafia Wars. If this does go live the way it is now, all players should be given the option to reallocate any or all stamina points into health, energy, attack, or defense.

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  15. what a joke another fck up

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  16. I have provided feedback to the survey and talked with support:

    1. They don't know how long this event is going to last: BAD NEWS.
    2. They did not do any survey or player surveys before they rolled his out: As expected of a disconnected company.
    3. They took my feedback on the ratio's and the self levelling back to their studio for further study (apparently they did not factor this in at all - typical)
    4. I explained the loss of confidence in their ability to
    a. Don't screw with what's not broken
    b. People's confidence that they know what they are doing in the game is eroding
    c. Spending in the game will diminish significantly due to poor planning and terrible execution.

    Until the sort it out - my fighting will be limited as I refuse to invest further to adjust in their ridiculous event that had serious shortcomings.

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  17. I have gone from the 750 stamina hit before Carnage to maximum 120 stamina and it has taken 1 round od stamina to get 1 ice. I wish I could understand why I`m so low. The game is pointless for me now as I am useless to my MW family.

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